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Old Nov 06, 2006, 05:52 PM // 17:52   #21
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Thats more than 4 days.
Especially when you would have to do trivial things such as eat and sleep. However in the posting it said that a good amount of that time is spent afk.
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Old Nov 06, 2006, 06:08 PM // 18:08   #22
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Thank you very much for this guide!

I think i might just have to return to ascalon!
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Old Nov 06, 2006, 08:10 PM // 20:10   #23
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Tatsu is leet

I can farm the 3warr + 1 charr groups solo (lv 6)

need a longbow and see if i can pull them together so symbol can get max effect. (loving the 32 dmg symbol, lawl @ frenzy)

tryin to keep the Suvivor title as long as I can...

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Old Nov 06, 2006, 10:53 PM // 22:53   #24
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The main reason i would like to do this is actually getting to lvl 20.The title is just something really nice to add.
And it will be very cool to use my game of the year weapons because theyre max it will make killing charr much easier once i get that req 9.
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Old Nov 06, 2006, 11:16 PM // 23:16   #25
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does it still exist that: as a party of 2 in pre-searing, if 1 person dies but 1 person is still alive, that 1 dead guy will res at the shrine?

I -KNOW- it used to be like that, but does it still do that? or must you BOTH die to res at the shrine?

if it is still possible I'll probably try to get ldoa/legendary survivor- using 2 clients & 2 accounts.
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Old Nov 06, 2006, 11:27 PM // 23:27   #26
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does it still exist that: as a party of 2 in pre-searing, if 1 person dies but 1 person is still alive, that 1 dead guy will res at the shrine?

I -KNOW- it used to be like that, but does it still do that? or must you BOTH die to res at the shrine?

if it is still possible I'll probably try to get ldoa/legendary survivor- using 2 clients & 2 accounts.
I believe both must die. However, if you follow this guide, you'll be at level 11 when it's time to hunt Charr. That's sufficiently high enough to clear everything without dying (barring you don't Leroy the shrine).
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Old Nov 06, 2006, 11:27 PM // 23:27   #27
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I think its if the other person is unable to ressurect.
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Old Nov 07, 2006, 12:14 AM // 00:14   #28
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Giving this a try with Ele. Griev Is Leet
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Old Nov 07, 2006, 12:23 AM // 00:23   #29
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Sure might give this a try, but can anyone confirm if this is character wide, else i probably wont bother
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Old Nov 07, 2006, 02:19 AM // 02:19   #30
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Why not do all of this while drunk? Get 2 titles in one go >.>;
At least you won't be bored all the time... just trippy :P.
--edited to remove repeated suggestion--
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Old Nov 07, 2006, 02:59 AM // 02:59   #31
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Talked to Legendary and Neo in game GL Guys!
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Old Nov 07, 2006, 03:23 AM // 03:23   #32
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FYI.. when you get to death lvling..

take your armor off..

this lets the moas do more damage to you a bit faster.
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Old Nov 07, 2006, 03:54 AM // 03:54   #33
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feel free to post ur ign if you do infact start this journy, i will add you to list(my f list has 10 total who have pmed me about this thus far, i have helped each one further themselves on their journy)
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Old Nov 07, 2006, 04:05 AM // 04:05   #34
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I started when the title first appeared, came across this gem of a guide last night. I started a Ranger who is level 7 with 0 quests completed. Her name is "Teutonic Vanguard".

Is it worth kill the Rogue Bull while doing "Charr at the Gate"?
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Old Nov 07, 2006, 04:10 AM // 04:10   #35
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Ok, here's Dom, corrected some horrible flaws in the above. Let me revise the guide here, and let someone else do the painstaking details.

1. I am in XoO, just not currently active in any division.

ok,
1. Start out, leave ascalon city, do the quest your dude gives you. Accept reward for 2 skills and some experience. No more quests for the rest of time.

2. Find the secondary trainer for your primary profession, monks would be Mhenlo, necromancer would be Munne (in the catacombs), ranger would be Nente in regent valley, Mesmers would be Althea just north of where you did that quest. Talk to them for an additional 2 skills, accept their quest, but don't do it. Go into a town and abandon it.

3. Do the same thing for any one secondary. You should now have about 7 skills on your bar. (I recommend ranger pets, so you can death level a Moa bird to 5 levels above yourself every night.

4. Get collector armor, armor is as follows for most professions I believe
A. Chest and Legs are at Ranik, you need 5 unnatural seeds+5 spider legs. PM Dom Caplan Is Leet to be sold some.
B. Gloves can be found at the res pad outside Foibles Fair. Takes 2 minutes to get the 3 Icey Loadstones from nearby ice elementals.
C. Boots can be found (at least for warrior and monk) in the entrance to the catacombs due north of Baradin Estate, gargoyles are present and easy to kill for the 5 Gargyole Skulls needed.
D. IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO FOLLOW: There are no helms in preseering, so do not trash your starter, it is the only one you'll get.
5. Leveling
LEVELS 1 THROUGH 4
After killing what you need for your collector armor, you should be about level 2 or 3. Kill skales outside Ascalon City for a little UMPH to get to level 4 or so, and to get the needed Skale Fins for your Belt Pouch. Dom Caplan Is Leet has these as well if you do not wish to farm, just drop a PM.
LEVELS 5 THROUGH 8
This is the most important time saver. Even though Charr At The Gates is easy, and mildly efficient, I have found an easier and more efficient way. Possibly twice so. Outside Foibles Fair, follow the path headed toward lake side county, but do not zone. As you near the portal, to the westsouthwest you will see multiple bears and bandit blood sworns. Follow this path, and kill all the level 3s. When you get near the end, there is a zone to the catacombs, that you can enter and leave to respawn all the enemy's. Even though the enemies provide about half the experience the Charr At The Gates do, it is faster to repeat, and 90% of the time you will be in combat.
LEVELS 9 THROUGH 15
This part, simply grab a friend, and cross the wall. Kill the Charr, get anyone listed on the first page to teach you how to work the agro's, and where to position yourself to minimize taken damage, and maximize output. With most professions, you can solo about half the charr, and with a skilled Mesmer with enough skill, you can solo the entire alter. After a while, the only thing that gives you exp as the bosses. DRAG.
LEVELS 16-18
This part is where you do every single quest, from everyone. Be sure that you do all the quests for all secondary professions. Like, do Ranger Nente's quest for a pet, but don't so I WANT TO BE A RANGER. Then go do Mhenlo's HELP PAULUS WHILE HE DOES STUFF IN THE CATACOMBS but don't accept the rewrad. When you are done with all the quests, you shold be level 18. I blieve it is important this comes before the deah leveling for 2 reaons.
1. Enemies get more experience for killing higher level foes. If you are a higher level when you start to death level, then they gain more experience, making it faster to get them to a level where you can kill them for value.
2. You might death level for an additional week, only to realize, that experience wouldn't have made a difference, because ultimately the quests get you what you need unconditionally.

18-20
Death leveling.
I'll explain more later...
I believe just rushing out to the charr at the alter and dying maybe 200 times willl make a run worth it... because you will of course be able to solo them with your massive DPS...
But maybe just sitting on a res pad starting with a level 1 moa will go faster, even though you have to get it to a higher level and you only get a handfull of them, you still don't have to be there, or spend half you're timing running to get there.

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Old Nov 07, 2006, 04:21 AM // 04:21   #36
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^^^^^^^^^
A little more confusing than the original post. But both seem like they'de work.
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Old Nov 07, 2006, 04:41 AM // 04:41   #37
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your levels 1-4 are MUCH slower then the system i provided

levels 4-8 although bears do work they truly are much slowly, i can guarentee this as i have tried taht myself, charrs work much faster with them being at level 5

i like the idea of going across wall earlier, i think i will change mine...BUT THEN MINE IS BETTER lol

9-15, we agree here except i say 11-15

DONT TAKE QUESTS THERE FOR 2 REASONS
1. you only get 10k exp from all quests(from waht i have heard/understand)
2.that will only get you to level 17 not 18

your proposition on charr v moa, i say moa because u can afk for that instead of sititng at comp, i am providing not always the most effective but the most satisfing method for time spent on computer

i will argue that my method is better to the death!

thnx for the input, hope to kill some more charr with ya dom

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Old Nov 07, 2006, 04:52 AM // 04:52   #38
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ok its all edited up, gl
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Old Nov 07, 2006, 05:08 AM // 05:08   #39
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Hey Jewish, way to be a hypopotamusacrit. You were killing charr with me, and you're like level 9.
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Old Nov 07, 2006, 06:16 AM // 06:16   #40
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You could easily set up an *ahem* bot or looping macro to make yourself run to the shrine and die repeatedly - you could leave it on while you're at work, come home and kill all the level 20 charr then leave it on overnight again, charr leveling and kill them in the morning. You don't have to sacrifice any real playing time, and seems like it'd work faster than the moas since there are more enemies to kill. The only worry would be Err=7s and the fact that you'd lose the survivor title like a million times over.
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